tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3094937232522894470.post3109678329548708337..comments2024-03-18T07:56:17.033-07:00Comments on Beyond the Black Gate: Retroclones and the Old School RenaissanceAlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01682401446176099294noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3094937232522894470.post-87134525722996606112009-04-27T10:03:00.000-07:002009-04-27T10:03:00.000-07:00It has been a long time since I have felt this kin...It has been a long time since I have felt this kind of energy about gaming the retro clones are really great . my players are mostly new and 4Th edition is overwhelming to them ( I just don't care for roll playing ) so we play Swords & Wizardry , Mutant Future and classic Traveller . the only " new " edition I like is Mongoose Traveller .The Inn On Palmer ST.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11264207446052295700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3094937232522894470.post-59586868003497658942009-04-26T12:38:00.000-07:002009-04-26T12:38:00.000-07:00@Matt - while I doubt I'll ever have a solid answe...@Matt - while I doubt I'll ever have a solid answer to the "why now?" question, I do know that solid retro simulacri like your own are a big part of it. It certainly drives home the fact that it is more than possible to release new product with the old rules and design ethics and still appeal to, and sell to, gamers old and new.Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01682401446176099294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3094937232522894470.post-21547095824123575882009-04-25T13:13:00.000-07:002009-04-25T13:13:00.000-07:00It all makes me wonder if, in ten years or so, the...It all makes me wonder if, in ten years or so, there'll be a 3e revival? It's not quite the same thing, as 3e has never gone away like the older editions, and likely will not, but these things tend to go in cycles.thekelvingreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928260185408072124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3094937232522894470.post-76485717857463949482009-04-25T11:14:00.000-07:002009-04-25T11:14:00.000-07:00Also, I have to head my comment by saying this is ...Also, I have to head my comment by saying this is a fantastic post. I think that the OSR has been building slowly all the way back to the point where Dragonsfoot was created. Bit by bit, people did this or that, and found an audience. Bit by bit, new people found their way to the community, usually starting by finding Dragonsfoot. It's all bit by bit, step by step. The retro-clones seem to mark the really big step forward because discussion of OSRIC got into the mainstream news as a big deal. I think that began pulling many more people to visit and think about the old school community. It took more than a year after OSRIC to see the sudden formation of many, many blogs. I don't have a theory about that one, although it seems to begin with Grognardia. Maybe James just put into the public eye a concept whose time had come. Anyway, blogging has suddenly and recently become a big deal in this next step of the OSR...Matt Finchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07678557558458924177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3094937232522894470.post-18288141681578125962009-04-24T19:20:00.000-07:002009-04-24T19:20:00.000-07:00Fantastic post. Is there an echo in here.
I'...Fantastic post. Is there an echo in here.<br /><br />I'm completely geeked about going to...<br /><br />http://ntrpgcon.com/index.html (North Texas RPG Con)<br /><br />The number of old school luminaries that are attending as a percentage of the small number of attendees is unbelievable. It should provide an opportunity for intimate discussion and gaming. I'm going to get all my stuff autographed by authors/editors. I started playing (O)D&D and then AD&D. I may get a chance to play B/X or BECMI.leadjunkiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18315365767527043985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3094937232522894470.post-36267721722675606612009-04-23T21:22:00.000-07:002009-04-23T21:22:00.000-07:00I agree, fantastic post.
I think a large percent...I agree, fantastic post. <br /><br />I think a large percentage of the rpg crowd believed the crafty corporate lie that old games were not only obsolete, but inherently flawed by the very fact that they are older games. New automatically equals better, improved, superior, fun. I also believe that people are slowly waking up, for whatever reason, to the fact that this is indeed a falsehood, with the result that they are discovering (or rediscovering) the fun of old school gaming. <br /><br />Perhaps too people have become sick and tired of the compulsion to buy, buy, buy. Modern rpg's seem to make you feel obliged to spend hundreds of dollars to purchase all that you need to truly play the game, another profit-led strategy. Maybe folks are beginning to find the idea of playing games that require you to buy only one single book, a pleasing and comfortable prospect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3094937232522894470.post-66903714867440286122009-04-23T10:49:00.000-07:002009-04-23T10:49:00.000-07:00Excellent post!
To me there are a few elements inv...Excellent post!<br />To me there are a few elements involved: new and streamlined rules, simple gameplay, mostly free core rules to test-drive and a very friendly community. The sheer number of games with a small audience pretty much ensures that the competition is friendly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com