tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3094937232522894470.post5704336404229358441..comments2024-03-28T03:39:41.417-07:00Comments on Beyond the Black Gate: A Retro-Clone you might not have.Alhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01682401446176099294noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3094937232522894470.post-79254893812314844822015-08-13T23:02:20.649-07:002015-08-13T23:02:20.649-07:00I can see where litrtrdnck is coming from, but I&#...I can see where litrtrdnck is coming from, but I'll go ahead and disagree. Yeah, there were a few issues with things in ITL -- the Prootwaddles should have never made it out of playtesting. Plus, on a casual browse, the rules aren't very well organized, but if you actually spend some time on it, it well repays the effort. Still the best light FRPG rules around -- and I much prefer them to GURPS simply because GURPS has long since reached the "dinosaur" stage of adding so much weight that it becomes too mind-boggling to use. I play games to "play," not to peruse rules book after rules book. The nice thing about TFT is that it lets you get set up and moving within a few minutes, and the GM can pretty much wing a lot of it if he wants too -- kind of perfect for the sandbox style of play (which I actually prefer), and stocking a dungeon can be done in a few minutes too, complete with traps, hidden doors, confusing locks, wandering monsters and what not. Especially if you spend a few minutes each day for a week or so drawing up some 3x5 cards for random monster selection so you can just shuffle the "Goblin" deck and voila -- Goblins with different arms, armor and characteristics come charging out of the hidden passage, instead of Star Wars Clone troopers.... Really the prep time issue is the same reason I don't play D&D anymore. Some of the GURPS splat books are well worth buying, just for the entertainment value, but overall, I'll take TFT for FRPG play any day.Jeff V.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09773383148220245208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3094937232522894470.post-25640261567311443272009-07-30T12:31:07.194-07:002009-07-30T12:31:07.194-07:00I was always intrigued by the game as a kid but ne...I was always intrigued by the game as a kid but never picked ITL up on the few occasions I saw it as I could never find a copy of Melee & Wizard at the same time and would end up blowing my coin on something else.<br /><br />My brother had a short lived D&D game he played with another friend and I saw the friend using ITL one time when he was DM'ing. I managed to sneak a look* at my brother's character sheet a day or two later and when I saw that the party had killed several "prootwaddles" and some other silly named monsters it was an immediate turn off at the time- just as T&T spell names had been to my friends/gaming group. I never pursued a copy thereafter. <br /><br />An ITL PDF was available (illegaly, I'm sure) online several years back on some TFT website and after browsing through I was not terribly impressed, frankly. The mechanics are def the seed that led to GURPS, and I'd probably just use GURPS LITE in that case. ITL was the book that turned W/M into a full fledged FRPG and the download @ DCG seems to be just the barebones M/W rules(?).<br /><br />*My older brother and I fought like Cats & Dogs growing up, thus I was not allowed to observe, let along GAME with his friends during a D&D session, lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3094937232522894470.post-86314824621833490222009-07-30T07:58:49.202-07:002009-07-30T07:58:49.202-07:00This is seriously cool. Downloaded at home - will...This is seriously cool. Downloaded at home - will have to check them out this weekend.<br /><br />Thanks for posting about this!Jack Badelairehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10932441028544500024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3094937232522894470.post-53130553385235181522009-07-30T06:07:23.089-07:002009-07-30T06:07:23.089-07:00A guy I went to junior high with played Melee but ...A guy I went to junior high with played Melee but I never really knew what it was. Sounds interesting and I'll have to check out the clone. Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3094937232522894470.post-91275139076984328142009-07-30T05:21:51.050-07:002009-07-30T05:21:51.050-07:00Mister Frau Blucher! :)Mister Frau Blucher! :)Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01682401446176099294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3094937232522894470.post-58503351417981739322009-07-29T22:16:56.658-07:002009-07-29T22:16:56.658-07:00As you may have noticed there are two play by post...As you may have noticed there are two play by post games going on in the Necromacer Games forum. We are playing a TFT game (with a bit of ItL rules) and a LAW game. It has been great fun and especially nice to have one of the Dark City Games guys playing with us.leadjunkiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18315365767527043985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3094937232522894470.post-50282916617936872762009-07-29T21:06:08.103-07:002009-07-29T21:06:08.103-07:00You Sir are a scholar and a gentleman, and I thank...You Sir are a scholar and a gentleman, and I thank you profoundly for this post and link. I love me some TFT. Now I'm off to see what the deal is at Dark City Games.Sham aka Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14329116400656617173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3094937232522894470.post-86771585037673299942009-07-29T19:33:31.129-07:002009-07-29T19:33:31.129-07:00Cool! Thanks for the link to darkcity - had no ide...Cool! Thanks for the link to darkcity - had no idea anyone was keeping the melee/wizard torch lit. I played the heck out of these back in the day (and OGRE/GEV - still do get some OGRE in)Ragnorakkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03812860633134547618noreply@blogger.com